Comments on: A Different Kind of Terror http://israleft.org/?p=64 Airing out Israel's dirty laundry Mon, 23 Aug 2010 21:57:18 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: IsraLeft » A Lot To Answer For http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-97 IsraLeft » A Lot To Answer For Wed, 05 Aug 2009 10:11:59 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-97 [...] A Different Kind of Terror Categories [...] [...] A Different Kind of Terror Categories [...]

]]> By: Mel http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-80 Mel Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:21:15 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-80 @Maital: Oh, I completely agree, the SASH MK's and the Rabbi's are being very, very hypocritical and it's pretty disgusting how that played out. @Maital: Oh, I completely agree, the SASH MK’s and the Rabbi’s are being very, very hypocritical and it’s pretty disgusting how that played out.

]]> By: Maital Rozenboim http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-79 Maital Rozenboim Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:12:05 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-79 @<a href="#comment-78" rel="nofollow">Mel</a>: I have religious friends, that I love and cherish and I don't believe they would kill a man to save their own lives, not only because it defies Thou Shalt Not Kill but also because they are inherently good people. Non the less, I have to point out an accusatory finger at the SHAS KMs and the rabbis. They're condemning the attack now, but they asked for it in their "We are all Pinhas" speak. As I said in the post, I wish it would be an escaped lunatic, if only because it means there was no conspiracy here, it wasn't pre-planned, he wasn't helped. But I haven't heard of any missing mental patients. Have you? :-/ @Mel: I have religious friends, that I love and cherish and I don’t believe they would kill a man to save their own lives, not only because it defies Thou Shalt Not Kill but also because they are inherently good people. Non the less, I have to point out an accusatory finger at the SHAS KMs and the rabbis. They’re condemning the attack now, but they asked for it in their “We are all Pinhas” speak. As I said in the post, I wish it would be an escaped lunatic, if only because it means there was no conspiracy here, it wasn’t pre-planned, he wasn’t helped. But I haven’t heard of any missing mental patients. Have you?
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]]> By: Mel http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-78 Mel Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:03:07 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-78 @Maital Rozenboim: Yes, I read those and see your stand point now. I hate plastering an entire community based on the words of a few... but those few represent those many, but that's how it goes. @Maital Rozenboim: Yes, I read those and see your stand point now. I hate plastering an entire community based on the words of a few… but those few represent those many, but that’s how it goes.

]]> By: Maital Rozenboim http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-76 Maital Rozenboim Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:00:29 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-76 @<a href="#comment-71" rel="nofollow">IanTrout</a>: @<a href="#comment-72" rel="nofollow">Mel</a>: I was planning on writing a long winded explanation, but I feel Or has already phrased it better then me in his post "It Is a Hate Crime". Go read it. @IanTrout: @Mel: I was planning on writing a long winded explanation, but I feel Or has already phrased it better then me in his post “It Is a Hate Crime”. Go read it.

]]> By: IsraLeft » The writing was plastered all over the wall, signed by Rabbis http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-75 IsraLeft » The writing was plastered all over the wall, signed by Rabbis Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:49:47 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-75 [...] A Different Kind of Terror [...] [...] A Different Kind of Terror [...]

]]> By: Mel http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-72 Mel Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:55:06 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-72 I'm very angry. In fact, I'd say I'm pretty f**king pissed. However, reacting with hatred to the entire religious community is counter-productive, especially since we have no clue who the gunman is. Prejudice is prejudice, no matter what motivated him, to accuse a different demographic of homophobia merely ignores the fact that homophobia exists everywhere. This was an acute eruption of an ugly social disease. I don't think this was a milestone in any way regarding Majority/Minority relations (what is that any way?). In addition, I don't think it's prudent to start throwing around accusations towards other communities when it can so easily backfire on us. The police's response was to close down LGBT centres and places, they can easily keep them closed for a while for "our protection". I’m very angry. In fact, I’d say I’m pretty f**king pissed.

However, reacting with hatred to the entire religious community is counter-productive, especially since we have no clue who the gunman is.

Prejudice is prejudice, no matter what motivated him, to accuse a different demographic of homophobia merely ignores the fact that homophobia exists everywhere. This was an acute eruption of an ugly social disease. I don’t think this was a milestone in any way regarding Majority/Minority relations (what is that any way?).

In addition, I don’t think it’s prudent to start throwing around accusations towards other communities when it can so easily backfire on us. The police’s response was to close down LGBT centres and places, they can easily keep them closed for a while for “our protection”.

]]> By: IanTrout http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-71 IanTrout Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:41:16 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-71 First of all, congratulations on the new blog, sad as it could be under the circumstances... And not to the main subject: I don't think that reacting with hatred towards the religious community is the right move right now, this could basically exasperate things, this will not help us or the victims. Besides that, this could be something entirely unrelated, this center is one for teenagers, their parents (at least some) don't know of their sexual orientation, one of these parents could be the one that committed this atrocity (and I'm sure that this angle is already being checked by the police). We must not steep as low as some of the religious leaders in this country and judge before we know any of the facts. Something must be said against the way they choose to express their ignorance, but going to 'war' against them at this stage is not really something that we need to do, especially if we're wrong... i used the word 'we' to loosely in this comment, I hope you all will understand my meaning without twisting my words. First of all, congratulations on the new blog, sad as it could be under the circumstances…
And not to the main subject: I don’t think that reacting with hatred towards the religious community is the right move right now, this could basically exasperate things, this will not help us or the victims. Besides that, this could be something entirely unrelated, this center is one for teenagers, their parents (at least some) don’t know of their sexual orientation, one of these parents could be the one that committed this atrocity (and I’m sure that this angle is already being checked by the police).
We must not steep as low as some of the religious leaders in this country and judge before we know any of the facts.
Something must be said against the way they choose to express their ignorance, but going to ‘war’ against them at this stage is not really something that we need to do, especially if we’re wrong…
i used the word ‘we’ to loosely in this comment, I hope you all will understand my meaning without twisting my words.

]]> By: Fatal Shooting at Tel Aviv LGBT Community Center http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-70 Fatal Shooting at Tel Aviv LGBT Community Center Sun, 02 Aug 2009 02:55:53 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-70 [...] words from Maital Rozenboim at IsraLeft: A 17 years old girl and a 24 years old man are the first two [...] [...] words from Maital Rozenboim at IsraLeft: A 17 years old girl and a 24 years old man are the first two [...]

]]> By: Shai Inbal http://israleft.org/?p=64&cpage=1#comment-69 Shai Inbal Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:02:41 +0000 http://israleft.org/?p=64#comment-69 I'm afraid that god did his part in this horrible event. The Shooter will tell us about it when we catch him, I'm sure. I’m afraid that god did his part in this horrible event. The Shooter will tell us about it when we catch him, I’m sure.

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